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Michael and Lynn met for the first time years ago when they were invited to debate each other on a radio program. But instead of debating Lynn asked Michael questions about his book and Mormon views. That, and exposure to Keith Walker's presentations on the "Impossible Gospel of Mormonism" started a process that would totally alter the course of his religious views and life. Michael comments, "So, yeah, I went from being a Mormon apologist to just within a few months to being a Christian. It was a whirlpool. God spun me around so fast and said, "Son, you're pointing that sword the wrong way." It a fascinating and fun conversation about one man's courageous pursuit of truth wherever it would lead him and despite whatever it might cost him.



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"It was like this darkness had totally lifted from us." Jolene Phelps, after she and her husband encounter forgiveness and restoration through God's grace. This is the emotional, encouraging, high-energy conclusion to our interview (3 parts) with James and Jolene Phelps. Besides sharing how God brought them to the truth via separate paths and a year and a half apart, they also share what to do and what not to do when your spouse has not yet seen the truth. It's an episode of laughter, transformation, and the healing of a marriage and family. 



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James and Jolene are both disenchanted with Mormonism. Jolene finds the Denver Snuffer splinter group and joins while her husband is away. The fighting escalates and they are on the brink of divorce. Yet, God has his hand on their marriage and keeps bringing people into their lives who serve as guides to the truth. James tries to go back to Mormonism, but only feels worse, till he has a one on one, personal encounter with Jesus that changes everything. Jolene just gets angrier because now James is happy and she is not. This fast-paced episode ends before the story does, so the conclusion doesn't come till next week. 

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In this episode, Joel and Lynn explore God's gamble in extending us grace and guaranteeing the end from the very beginning. What does gambling have to do with grace? What’s the risk? It’s all on the table, no negotiating. What’s the guarantee? “I know your secrets, you need to know mine” Lynn. "Grace is the conduit through which God comes to us. We are born alienated from God. God know us intimately, that’s not intimidating, that’s freeing” Joel.



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James and Jolene both came from strong LDS families and faithfully followed the path marked out by their performance-based religion. They lived tranquil lives in a Mormon bubble in Arizona and everything was great, until James, an attorney, could no longer ignore his spiritual discontent or troubling aspects of Mormonism. Jolene, and accountant, likewise was committed to making it work, until she also started noticing some cracks in the wall. Jolene thinks she has found answers in a Mormon splinter group, but as we end this candid and humorous episode she confesses this only made their marriage and lives worse. Listen to part 1 of their story here: https://unveilinggracepodcast.com/

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After marrying Brian (a Mormon) against her family's wishes, both Karen and Brian walked away from faith for a time. However, with the birth of their daughter, they decide to find a church that is neither Baptist (her background) nor Mormon (his background). Karen and Lynn share candidly about the stress and pressure they felt in a performance-based religious system, and contrast this with the refreshing freedom of knowing you are loved by God for who you are and not what you do. This story has a happy ending. Karen and Brian Culbertson now lead a church for people burned out by religion (details on this church in the show notes). Listen to part 2 of her story here: https://unveilinggracepodcast.com/ Search on all our podcast episodes here: https://unveilinggracepodcast.com/search-all-podcasts



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Totally against the advice and wishes of her parents, Karen decided to marry her high school sweetheart, Brian. (See episodes 87 and 88 for Brian's story). He and his whole family were members of the LDS Church. As their friendship grew more serious the concern of both their families increased. Karen walked away from her faith for a time, and in this winsome and often humourous interview, Karen shares the struggles and regrets she went through as a result of her decision. Her story has a happy ending, but we don't get to find out how it works out until part 2. Karen Culbertson is now a licensed counselor and pastor's wife. She is grateful for the grace of God that brought healing to her life and marriage. Listen to part 1 of her story here: https://unveilinggracepodcast.com/
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Melonie followed a windy road to truth and Jesus, but today she is so grateful she walked it. Disenchanted with certain aspects of the religion of her whole life, Melonie wanted, more than anything else, a close and personal relationship with Jesus. When she was excommunicated from the Mormon Church - despite her testimony of Jesus, Joseph Smith and the Book of Mormon, she found new freedom to explore truth and a closeness to Jesus she had always longed for. She learned of Jesus and his grace through worship music which God used to help heal her heart. Her spirit resonated with the truth of John 3:16-17 which helped her embrace Jesus and his amazing gift of grace and forgiveness. Listen to her story and get links to some of the music that stirred her soul here: https://unveilinggracepodcast.com/ New - Search every podcast episode here: https://unveilinggracepodcast.com/search-all-podcasts



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Melonie grew up only knowing the faith of ancestors that went back generations to the early LDS pioneers. When it came time for college her father took her to BYU with instructions to find a returned LDS missionary. Within a couple of years she was married in the temple, faithfully engaged in various callings, and starting a large family. But the more she learned about the system, the more questions arose, and the once unshakably solid foundation started to develop cracks. Where would her choices to pursue truth lead? Listen to her fascinating story here: http://unveilinggracepodcast.com/ New tool! Search all podcast episodes here on any key word and find just what you're looking for fast. https://unveilinggracepodcast.com/search-all-podcasts



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Brian was raised Mormon, now he's a Christian pastor. His transition path is a windy one where God weaves grace in and out of Brian's story. In this episode which starts with Brian in Africa with the Masai Mara tribe, Brian shares his messy, sometimes reluctant path to ministry. It's a fast-moving and humorous story of hope, and a grace that brought meaning and healing to his life. Listen to it here: https://unveilinggracepodcast.com/.

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Brian was raised Mormon, now he's a Christian pastor. His transition path is a windy one where God weaves grace in and out of Brian's story. In this episode Brian shares the first part of his journey with Joel and Lynn. From believing Mormon to agnostic Mormon, to seeker, God showed up and made His presence know to Brian during a visit to the Masai Mara tribe in Kenya, Africa. It's a fast-moving, fascinating story of hope and encouragement. Listen to it here: https://unveilinggracepodcast.com/. NEW! Use our Search page to find any word or phrase from any episode and immediately listen to that spot in the recording. It's blazing fast! Try it here: https://unveilinggracepodcast.com/search-all-podcasts



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In the moving conclusion to Michelle's story she talks candidly about losing her marriage, her identity, her church, and finally, most importantly, losing her trash. The result is a new story, a new identity and a new family. Michelle answers the question so many people in performance-based religions are asking - How do I find real hope, true peace and the security that I'm loved and accepted by God, regardless of my religious performance? Listen in, be encouraged and experience a grace that heals. https://unveilinggracepodcast.com/

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Michelle leaves her Christian community, leaves the man who wanted to marry her, and joins the Mormon Church thinking she'd finally found her forever family. It wasn't to be. Her 30 years of faithfulness to the LDS religion brought heartache, abuse, confusion and divorce. But God was pursuing her heart and the light began to penetrate. This is the messy middle of the story, but even here grace is bringing healing to her very hurting heart. Listen to it here: https://unveilinggracepodcast.com/



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From the time she was small Michele believed in God, and time after time He rescued her, showing up through people and places. Her's has been a long journey and she thought she'd found everything she needed in Mormonism, until that too failed to deliver what it promised.  If you need encouragement and grace for your journey, you'll find it in Michele's story. Join us this and every week at: www.unveilinggracepodcast.com



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Your life and relationships will flourish only to the extent you are free from the bondage of sin and the condemnation of living under the Old Covenant. Lynn Wilder and Joel Groat continue their exploration of the amazing benefits of New Covenant ushered in by the resurrection of Jesus and warn of the dangers of performance-based religious groups that seek to draw their followers back under the rules and regulations of the Old Covenant. You can experience true freedom and healing in the Holy Spirit as you enter into life in the New Covenant of grace. Jesus brought all your need to work and earn worthiness to an end when he exclaimed: "It is finished!" Listen to this and all our episodes at: https://unveilinggracepodcast.com/



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Easter is going to be radically different this year as we stay at home and shelter in place. We are more likely to celebrate it in comfy clothes and fuzzy slippers than hats and high heels. Nevertheless, Easter is where we celebrate the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus, and that is the focus of this episode. Easter inaugurates a whole new covenant - a new way for people to relate to God. It brings to an end life under the Old Covenant, characterized by death and condemnation which was a mere shadow of what we have now. Lynn shares how much she misunderstood about Jesus and the Old and New Covenants during her 30 years as a faithful Mormon, and how her new understanding and relationship with Jesus has transformed her life. Do you know someone needing a message of grace and hope? Share this episode with them as we celebrate the resurrection of Jesus and the hope of new life that nothing, not even COVID-19, can take away. https://unveilinggracepodcast.com/



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Lynn and Joel continue their dialogue on finding God during our current crisis. This week they share Scripture and practical ways we can connect with the one True God who is both present and personal. Listen and learn how Jesus' peace and grace invade our lives as we read his word and we then reach out to others who need to find hope and tranquility during our very tumultuous times. Catch this and every other episode here: https://unveilinggracepodcast.com/



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In this episode Joel and Lynn talk about how grace and the presence of Jesus changes the way we respond and cope when our normals are shattered by the chaos of something like the Coronavirus.  Lynn talks candidly about the contrast between how she would have responded as a faithful member of the LDS Church versus how she has responded now, and the peace that being in relationship with Jesus brings to times of tragedy (her own mother died in a previous flu pandemic). God can work everything for our good, and disruptions can actually lead to greater depth in our relationship with God and others.  Join them this week for encouragement for troubled times and experience a grace that heals.  https://unveilinggracepodcast.com/


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This week we continue the emotional and moving story of Lila Lebaron. In this episode she tells of the providential events that moved her out of Mexico and the polygamous Lebaron colony, to working with, and then singing for Adam's Road Ministry. Lila continues her story with a quiet winsomeness and a radiant love for Jesus that comes through even though you can't see her face. (This is a rebroadcast of UGP 017) For shownotes and a link to sample Adam's Road song featuring Lila, please visit https://unveilinggracepodcast.com/ and https://www.adamsroadministry.com/son-of-man-album



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Polygamy continues to thrive in parts of Mexico. As a result, Lila Lebaron was born into an abusive family with over 30 children. How she went from a polygamist colony in northern Mexico to full time ministry as one of the lead vocalists of Adam's Road is a moving and fascinating story of providential grace. Lila shares her story with a quiet winsomeness that showcases the amazing love of Jesus. (This is a rebroadcast of UGP 016)

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