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Is truth what we feel to be true? What do you do when what you know to be true clashes with what you are feeling is true? Pastor and researcher Jon Benzinger is our guest again for a fast-paced, fact-filled discussion on the top 5 reasons we can trust the Bible to be our reliable guide for life and relationship with God and others. We also talk about the importance of feelings and we explore how performance-based religion often gets it wrong when it comes to our feelings and how we know truth. Lynn and Jon also talk candidly about how God used the Bible to personally change their lives and the hope and healing that is there for anyone who is seeking transformation.
Note: This podcast originally aired as Episode #070.
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Welcome to 2021. We're kicking off the new year with two of our favorite and most popular episodes. Our guest is Jon Benzinger, Lead Pastor at Redeemer Bible in Gilbert, AZ. He's done extensive study on the multiple lines of evidence for the reliability and trustworthiness of the Bible. Jon is an excellent communicator and engaged with Lynn and me with authenticity and clarity. He has an incredible heart for people, especially the predominant demographics in Gilbert -- Hispanics, retirees, and Mormons.
The question of why we can trust the Bible, and just as importantly, why we should live consistently with what the Bible teaches, made for a fun and fast-paced conversation with Jon. Lynn and I were encouraged and inspired by this episode and we are excited we get to kick off the 2021 podcast season by sharing it with you. Happy New Year!
Note: This podcast originally aired as Episode #069.
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Analise's father was diagnosed with stage four cancer when she was nine and only given a couple of months to live. Her story of loss, faith, and love eventually became intertwined with Mormonism when LDS neighbors from a nearby ranch offered to help her and her mom with their horses and cattle. In this episode, Analise shares how her evangelistic Bible studies with the Mormon boy next door led to her falling in love with him and walking away from her family and almost her faith. Will she stay true to Jesus, or will she leave everything she loves to follow him into Mormonism?
Join us this week for part 2 of this story of love, grace, Jesus, hard choices, and horses.
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Analise's father was diagnosed with stage four cancer when she was nine and only given a couple of months to live. Her story of loss, faith, and love eventually became intertwined with Mormonism when LDS neighbors from a nearby ranch offered to help her and her mom with their horses and cattle. In this episode, we follow Analise, now an attractive young woman who is also an accomplished horseback rider. She is devoted to Jesus and burdened to share truth with her LDS neighbors. Life gets complicated when a young Mormon man, just returned from his LDS mission, shows up to help on the ranch. In time they fall for each other and Analise is suddenly much more open to the LDS faith. Will she stay true to Jesus, or will she walk away from her Christian family and faith to follow her heart?
Join us this week as we start a 3-part story of love, grace, Jesus, hard choices, and horses.
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In this episode after years of being a single mom and shying away from marriage, Leah falls for a non-Mormon. He converts and they get married in the LDS temple. The experience jarred him so, it led to his going inactive and sent Leah on a quest to prove both her husband and her Christian friend were wrong about Mormonism. In a series of providential events, God reaches her heart and transforms both her and her husband's lives. It's a fast-moving episode filled with laughter, and a surprise reconciliation with her father who had abused her as a young girl. Her life radiates a joy and hope in Jesus and is clear evidence of the healing that God's grace can bring to anyone.
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Listening to her easy, infectious laugh and at times raw transparency, you'd not suspect the history of suffering and abuse that marked Leah's life into early adulthood. Born into the LDS Church, it was a place of comfort and stability, even while the Mormon system contributed to the abuse and her own deep feelings of unworthiness. In the end, God pursued her and reached her through unexpected means, and brought her to the place of joy and hope that is so evident in her life today.
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As a third-generation Latter-day Saint, returned missionary and now bishop of his ward, Jon's Mormon life was unraveling fast. Jesus was pursuing him and the truth of what he was finding about the LDS church was rocking his world. Now he has to tell his wife and Mormon leadership why he's not wearing his garments. God showed up in amazing ways and today they rejoice the whole family found grace, hope and renewed faith.
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As a third-generation Latter-day Saint, Jon's Mormon life was on-track. Successful foreign mission, married in the temple, multiple callings, an offer to become a full-time LDS church employee, and then a call to be bishop of his local congregation. But all that was on the outside. Inside things were unraveling and there was no one to tell, especially not his LDS leaders nor his wife. Jon found grace in an unexpected place, but will he regain his faith after losing it?
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Here's the happy ending we've been waiting for. Despite family drama and tension, Luke and Emma stay true to each other and Jesus. Luke tells more of how he navigated a family opposed to his marriage, and Emma learns some things about Luke she didn't know before this podcast. It's a candid interview marked with laughter as Luke and Emma share how they grow together with grace, hope, and love intact.
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After getting a text from Luke saying he's breaking up with her (sent by his LDS friends), Emma drives 7 hours to talk face to face. Will she be able to keep Luke from being totally drawn back into Mormonism? Was his faith in Jesus real? Will their love survive this test and the months they will spend continents apart? This episode answers these questions and explores the pendulum swings and anger so common during the transition out of a performance religion. Luke and Emma share how to survive these relational storms with grace, hope, and love intact.
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How do we know what we are told about Jesus is the truth. What are the facts and what are the sources for those facts? How do we know the same about the founder of Mormonism, Joseph Smith? These are the topics Tom Hobson explores in his new book, The Historical Jesus and the Historical Joseph Smith, which we talk about on this week's episode. These are core issues with far-reaching implications. And after listening, don't forget to check out the show notes where we will have links to many of the resources we talk about in this episode.
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What do you do with a divided marriage? One spouse (probably you) is ready to exit your performance religion, or already transitioned out, but your partner is still in. How do you navigate a relationship marked by tension, anger, or maybe just a lot of silence, and isolation?
Dr. Lynn Wilder and Joel Groat talk boundaries, meddling in-laws, and the risk of marital infidelity, and how to bring grace and truth into a troubled marriage in a way that shows love and respect. Join them for 27 minutes devoted to helping your life and relationships flourish - here: https://unveilinggracepodcast.com/
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Matt's LDS world was being turned upside down by what he was finding in the Bible and hearing from his younger brother Micah. When he started sharing this with Nicole, his LDS girlfriend, he thought it would probably be the end of the relationship. Was following Jesus and the truth he was learning worth losing his full-ride scholarship at BYU and professional career and the girl he loved so deeply? Nicole and Matt share candidly and openly a journey with a lot of unknowns -- but also a lot of grace, love, and hope.
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If you are LDS, Matt Wilder's story could have been yours. He was born into the quintessential Mormon family and they did it all: temple trips, scouting, callings, Scripture reading, sabbath. Yet, by his early teens, his soul was restless with a sense of his own unworthiness and failure to measure up to the high outward standards of his religion. Would his family's move from the Midwest heartland to the heart of Utah in the Salt Lake Valley help him find peace?
Matt recommits to his Mormon faith, but then several events on his LDS mission and while a student at BYU cast light on a different path. Could this one lead to a sense of being forgiven and accepted by God?
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You will be amazed and encouraged at how God miraculously orchestrates circumstances to bring Lynn Wilder and Emma Moss together. Emma's story is one of bewilderment, hope, heartbreak, and trust in God as she navigates the uncertainty of dating and caring deeply for her Mormon boyfriend while staying true to her own Christian faith. It's clear God is moving, but will the relationship result in them being together or apart?
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Lynn starts off the podcast with the story of Temple Square security scaring her young grandkids when they came to see Santa. Police in Spain take Joel and Steve Dealy to the police parking garage for a chat. Lynn talks about what it was like to be a Mormon approached by Christians at the Nauvoo Pageant. Lynn explains what the Bible means when it says "faith without works is dead" and how different that is from how many religions use this verse. It's a fast-moving, multi-faceted episode with both humor and hope. Listen to this episode, and get links to new resources in the show notes here: https://unveilinggracepodcast.com/ You too can experience a grace that heals!
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Joel and Lynn talk about some misconceptions Mormons have about Christians (and vice versa) and what they've learned about grace from their international travels. Joel shares about the time an angry Mormon Temple President physically threatened him in Guayaquil, Ecuador, and how God used that incident over the next several years to open doors for ministry at Mormon Temple open houses in Latin America. The path of grace is always full of adventure! Come share it with us.